Beer Tour One

Chris  0:10  
Thank you for listening to tipsy talking. We talk drink and have a great time doing it. So you should have a great time tuning in. We're not professional tasters. But that doesn't stop us from trying new things. So grab a glass and relax.

It's been more or less, I'm pretty sure 10 episodes of tipsy talking, I think either 10 or 11. At this point,

Sab  0:41  
I think this is Episode 11.

Chris  0:43  
It's been 11 episodes and not once have I done a fully dedicated beer episode, even though Well, I mean, I've done fully dedicated beer tastings. But like I haven't talked about my one true passion, which is beer. I haven't talked about the aspects of beer. And that's what we're going to do today on tipsy talking,

Sab  0:59  
cuz I know nothing.

Chris  1:00  
My name is Chris. We have a new guest here today. This is my good friend Sabrina, who claims to know nothing about beer, except that she can drink a lot of it.

Sab  1:09  
Is that a compliment? Or an insult? Because I'm taking it as a call.

Chris  1:12  
That's a compliment. All right, good. So basically, in today's episode, instead of randomly picked beers, like we usually do around when we pick drinks, I decided that I would take you on a tour of three different styles.

Sab  1:24  
You really went you really delved into this, you had like a whole list and we went shopping for like 20 minutes, it felt like an hour,

Chris  1:30  
I tried to plan it out. And it's, this is our third take. It's It's It's planning doesn't work. So you know, I'm just gonna go for it. A lot of this episode comes from a book that I bought called the beer Bible. It's written by Jeff alworth. And I'm just, I'm just pointing this out, because I think it's worth anyone who likes beer to check it out. It really, it was a good read. It was a strong thesis for this episode. So definitely check it out. I'll put the link in the show notes. And

Sab  1:55  
give it a read. I think I only flipped through like a page or two. And it was already interesting. It's a fantastic

Chris  1:59  
book. It talks about the history of beer going all the way back to like, ancients fucking summary. I don't know how they know about beer back then. But dinosaurs die. No beer. No Beer Beer brewed with like fossils. Oh, no. So as anyone who listens to the show knows, has a few aspects when it comes to tasting beer. When we poured a beer, we take a look at it. We describe its color. We talked about the head. You know what the head is?

Sab  2:26  
Yes, I know what the head is. I've listened to your previous episodes show.

Chris  2:30  
Oh my god, someone listens. Oh, yeah. We talked about that. We talked about the smell. And then obviously we talked about the taste. And a lot of people you know, as I say in every episode, we're not professionals. But a lot of people do this as a hobby. And it's a really cool one. I think. I think that's a good spot to I'm really stuttering today. I don't know what's going on.

Sab  2:48  
Oh, you skipped lunch and then you indulged. I skipped

Chris  2:50  
lunch. I ate a whole oxtail soup. And then two slices of pizza. I just came out of like, an intense fever dream last night. Like ship. Okay, sounds like you need a drink. I think I do need a drink. And we're actually we're going to go to our first style right now. So our first style of beer that we're going to try is called a coach. I'm sure you've tried coaches before. Coach is one of the ones that a lot of you'll find in a lot of places coaches, pills, news, things like that you find a lot. So of course it's typically range from 4.5 to 5.5% ABV. Do you know what Ibu is? No, I have no idea. Ibu is another aspect of beer. It's It stands for international bittering units. No fucking does not it does international bittering units and there's no real metric behind it. It's basically bittering it's basically like if it's five it's not bitter. And if it's like 200,000 you're gonna want to puke.

Sab  3:45  
It sounds like something if I call my mom's like an international bittering unit. Even though it doesn't mean anything.

Chris  3:55  
You're an international bittering unit. Thank you. You're welcome. According to Jeff Cole should should be served between 30 degrees and 45 degrees Fahrenheit. Certainly not the temperature. We have ours at but uh, we could sit on it for like, Oh, I thought it was I thought it'd be warmer. I thought it was warmer. You think this is between 30 and 45?

Sab  4:13  
I think it's I think it's okay, that's fine. It's fine

Chris  4:17  
vessel. So a cylindrical stained glass. I don't know what that means personally, but you don't say that? cylindrical stained glass.

Sab  4:28  
Nevermind the bits ruined. I was I was gonna do like I knew that ship. I don't even know what you fucking said. Continue.

Chris  4:36  
No. Okay.

Essentially, every biersch has like its own glass that it's supposed to be drunk out of. I don't give a shit about that because I don't have the money to buy a full beer glass set.

Sab  4:47  
What kind of boozy as Exactly.

Chris  4:50  
We're not that boozy. A lot of beer tasters, you know they are boozy.

Sab  4:53  
I knew this was gonna be some fancy shit would have Bible in the name.

Chris  4:56  
It's not fancy. It's not fancy. It's just like, this is actually History. Okay, this is intense historical value right here right?

Sab  5:03  
So it's like before they had plastic cups. I want more pizza. I can't stop thinking about that pizza.

Chris  5:08  
You can't have more pizza. You're gonna have a kolsch you have your pizza after

Sab  5:11  
all. I'm gonna have the beer. Yeah, well, yeah, it's gonna taste even better after a drink. Are you kidding me?

Chris  5:16  
So cultures are pretty much similar to your typical Pilsner. Your basic yellow beer, you know, you're like yellow beer.

Sab  5:24  
So pissy.

Chris  5:26  
No? Well, huh. Huh. Quite possibly, wheat sweat? I don't know. So I was looking at review reviews for this specific one that we have. And a lot of them said it's very good beer flavored beer, which is what Yeah, I don't know. But that review had five stars out of

Sab  5:42  
you know, I love chocolate favorite chocolate. We should get some of that later.

Chris  5:48  
So let's say Actually, I wrote down some of the bane characteristics in my little book

Sab  5:53  
as he looks for his book because he has no idea where he placed it. Do you know where I placed my book, which one out of the 12 that you slammed them

Chris  6:01  
so they're light bodied, they tend to be pale gold and topped with a white head. There are subtle differences from a Pilsner. They have a bit of a yeast taste, and a little bit of fruitiness. According to this description you

Sab  6:13  
just described my Saturday night.

Chris  6:15  
Oh, did I. And actually, all the beers that we chose today were recommended by sedbuk. So the way the book works is after it gives the history of beer and talks about like the top the tasting beer and flavor profiles, it gives you the styles and after each style, it gives you recommendations. So we got the raise Dorf, kolsch beer I think I said that right? I don't speak I'm not going to try to say it but that sounds better. I know I know it's called I think that says raise the word I was gonna say, rice and rice Dorf. It originates from Cologne, Germany. The malt that uses malts are the basically the wheat used to the wheat like plants used to brew beer, Pilsner malt and Munich malts, the hops which are like the grains that give it flavor essentially, okay, are Hercules and Pearl. It's 4.8% ABV. And instead of finding a description online like I usually do, I figured I'd read the description from the book. So res Dorf, the most readily available culture in the United States is a mild that is less hoppy version. res adore finds balance among the elements of gently sweet malt notes, mineral crispness, and light hopping. The elements are best appreciated. When you can enjoy three or four stages. The glasses we know nothing about. Yeah, sadly, cultures don't travel especially well, and their liveliness is often lost during shipment across the Atlantic that was hot that sounded real good. Oh mine just like my camera to farting noise

Sab  7:51  
before

Chris  7:53  
shop was gassy. I got a lot of heads did get a lot of head I tried the powder. How did you pour it? poured it like that? Straight down

Sab  8:03  
No. Okay, like along the sides Yeah, I did along the side. Maybe it's the way the glass Yeah, yeah, it's not the proper glass. It's not the proper glass.

Chris  8:13  
You know, I feel like I feel like I gotta look up. What this is because I'm sounding like I made this episode to be educational. I'm sounding like a

Sab  8:20  
fool. Here like I don't know what it is figured out.

Chris  8:23  
Well, like I said, I just don't have the money the vise specific glasses. No, no. Okay, this is for me to learn you to learn for all of us. Oh, stained glass is the one that a stained glass is the long tall like rectangular ones. Like oh, it's the boring ones. The boring ones. Exactly. So as Sabrina mentioned, this beer had a very thick white head on top.

Sab  8:48  
I'm not gonna say anything. Don't make eye contact with me try stop

Chris  8:52  
who knows that? I can't see me I'm flicking my eyebrows up and down. Or he's trying to they just look like they're having a seizure. It is indeed a piss yellow. It really is no it's a honey colored yellow. It looks like your typical you know for those who don't drink that many different beers It looks like a Bud Light pour it out into a cup

Sab  9:11  
it's a little darker than a Bud Light I would say well let's let's find some light yeah I'm trying to get

Chris  9:20  
the low clink ease Oh we got smelling well that's what's good actually.

Sab  9:25  
It's oh my god it has a beer smell.

Chris  9:27  
No it doesn't. Okay, wait Okay, so Okay, let's get to our next speaker that

Sab  9:31  
smells like beer. No,

Chris  9:33  
let's go to our net Fuck you. Let's go to our next aspect of like, experiencing the beer as the book book. As the as the book puts it. So like when you smell a beer obviously it's gonna smell like beer but your goal is to like pick out things that like stand out. Like for example, I do smell honey, but that might just be because I was thinking honey already. So power power suggestion.

Sab  9:59  
It smells really sweet to me before and this smells like something the smell sweet, right? Yeah, like I'm getting memories back in my backyard during the summer when I'm like pissed drunk,

Chris  10:07  
but does smell it.

Sab  10:08  
It smells like a summary a little bit. It sounds like something I would enjoy. Like while I'm running around a little

Chris  10:12  
bit of lemon,

I think oh, citrus. Yeah, that's a good point.

I don't know if I'm gonna like this. Oh, you know?

Sab  10:19  
Oh yeah, you don't really like scissors do let's say, wow, that's actually really late.

Chris  10:24  
That's really good.

Sab  10:25  
Yeah. Do you taste that?

Chris  10:27  
So it smells okay. So for, like Sabrina was saying, while beer that smells like beer. It tastes a whole lot different than just beer. Very sweet.

Sab  10:40  
It's refreshing. Like I don't want to. I don't want to put it down.

Chris  10:44  
I wish it was colder.

Sab  10:46  
A little colder. Yeah, it would be much better but like this temperature right

Chris  10:49  
now. It seems like a buttered cracker. buttered cracker. Yeah, like butter. I don't know if I could put it on a saltine crackers. I

don't know if I would say cracker.

Sab  10:58  
turned to like depict what to describe it. Well. It is very light though. Like this is something I can chug. No problem.

Chris  11:05  
I think you could use more carbonation. Yeah. But like I said, so most I'm pretty sure a lot of these I'm pretty sure all the beers we have today are important. So like the book said it could also just be a loss of carbonation you know?

Sab  11:20  
You know what you're right because it's going down a lot smoother. You know, like it tastes a little flat but that doesn't mean it tastes bad. It's just like

Chris  11:29  
exactly yeah, I think I think I can understand why this was a recommended one. Because it definitely it like it said it's light bodied, easy to drink and could go down with basically any meal. It's crisp.

Sab  11:43  
Yeah. Just kind of beer is kind of like my mom is not a beer person. Right? But every now and then if we're at like a barbecue or something she'll ask me to get her something she always wants something super late. This is definitely something that I think she would love to taste with. And that's that's saying a lot because like I said she doesn't like beer.

Chris  12:02  
This book says that coaches tend to have I never thought about this like personally, but this book says that it has a mineral aftertaste.

Sab  12:09  
I was gonna say it's like kind of earthy. Yeah. Isn't

Chris  12:12  
that coast cautious in general have a mineral sort of flavor to them. And I could see that I kind of get that as it goes down a little bit of a minerality to it. I like it. I like it a lot. It's very easy to drink. I was really cool. And I was worried about drinking this episode. This one's not bothering me at all. Like I said, it's from Cologne, Germany, which is where one of the cities where coaches originate from Cologne, Cologne, and Dusseldorf. Dusseldorf Dumbledore was the guy from

Phineas and Ferb? doofenshmirtz.

Oh, man. So I think the next thing I want to talk about is kind of like the flavor profiles that go with beer. So there's like a bunch of different things to talk about in that sense, right? So let me let me get

Sab  13:04  
to it. I see you got like little tabs, you know chapters and stuff.

Chris  13:08  
So for example, right? So here we go. flavor. We got a little flavored glossary here, right? So things you might pick out Naver glossary, I'm gonna look at it and I'm gonna see if you agree with me. I'm going to pick some things from this specific list. And then you tell me if you can pick them up because I'm picking them out. Bread cracker biscuit? I think definitely. I think like I said, a butter cracker. I don't think biscuit. No, really. I get this get honey,

Sab  13:34  
honey, definitely. I'm trying to think there was something I had one time that had like a little bit of honey drizzled on it, but it wasn't a biscuit. And that's what it's reminding me of. And I can't it wasn't it was almost like the consistency of flaw and like a little flunk cube and it had like honey drizzled on it. Something like that, like a creamy It was like creamy. You know what I mean? The beers creamy. No, the beers not creamy. It's just like, it's hard to describe. It's like how you said with the buttery stuff. Like, I wouldn't describe it as creamy. Unless it was like, like on a scale from like, one to 10 with the creaminess. Maybe like a three.

Chris  14:10  
You wouldn't say this is like overly buttery, right? Absolutely not. Okay, good. We'll talk more about that in a second. There's no alcohol flavor profile in this. Oh, yeah. I don't know. So this is funny to me. This one's a little funny, because I don't think it's a mineral we talked about already. Pair, red pair and all of a sudden I'm tasting pair my mouth. Again, power suggestion is a big thing.

Sab  14:32  
Especially with you give me a second here.

Chris  14:34  
Whoa, whoa, what does that mean? I think there's a fruitiness to it.

Sab  14:40  
There's a fruitiness but not pair. We don't think pair No, you know why? Because I get a reaction to like apples and pears. And usually if I even taste it or smell something that's apple or pear, like if

Chris  14:50  
that's your specific flavor profile. I don't have pears that often. So when I when I taste something that I think is similar to pear, I can point it out right away. I think Like very slight I think it's just I think I'm trying to say it's fruity

Sab  15:03  
sometimes it is fruity and it's it's like in the family kind of where it's not like melon fruity, or there's a little bit of citrus like a hint of it. Yeah, that seems like but I see what you mean with when you say pear, because like, you know, pears and apples. They they're like very specific fruits. Yeah, I mean, but it's not a pair. It's something else. But I know there's a fucking somebody This is not a pair. Somebody so somebody probably knows that there. There's a specific fruit that I had once and I can't remember the name. And it was

Chris  15:35  
too damn fruit.

Sab  15:35  
I don't remember. I just remember I was somewhere you just know the flavor of the fruit. I just know that it was milder than a pear but it did not taste like is it the texture of textures? Exactly like an apple and pear. And that's what this is reminding me of when you said pear, because I'm like, it definitely doesn't taste like a pear. Yeah, yeah, I see the face here.

Chris  15:55  
I don't think I've had any other fruit. I

Sab  15:56  
know. I don't know what it is. But basically, yes, yes, folks. It's it's fruity. very mildly fruity. It's like if someone bid a pair and spat in your mouth through the play that little remnants.

Chris  16:06  
That's not a bad thing or good thing.

Sab  16:08  
It can be whatever you want.

Chris  16:11  
So here's the cool thing, right? So a lot of the flavors listed on this list. And it's true. aren't like, your typical flavors like leather. Like that's a flavor profile that's described as like, no, like, you could want that, you know,

Sab  16:26  
dry hide.

Chris  16:27  
I'm waiting to have a smoky beer. I want to do a Smokey Bear episode.

Sab  16:30  
Smokey Bear is so good. You've had a smoky smoky bear. They're delicious.

Chris  16:34  
I want I like pine beer. I like that. I like never had that. So on the other side of the spectrum, you know, there's that flavor profile. There's also mouthfeel, by the way, and like how we said with this beer, it goes down really easy. It's liquid. It's very fluid.

Sab  16:48  
Yeah, some of your like, feels like it's biting. There's some

Chris  16:50  
beer that's viscous. You know, beer can have a stringency. Which is like you know, like when you drink something high alcohol you get the dryness on your tongue. Yeah, that's a stringency

Sab  17:02  
it almost makes you more thirsty it's not like this this is this is very This is what is your mouth This is quenching a lot I just hydrating Yeah,

Chris  17:09  
and beer can be hydrating actually. Fun fact we will you know you get drunk you need water. Fun fact about beers and it's mostly it is mostly water so you can actually hydrate yourself off of beer I read that in an article

Sab  17:23  
I did not know that I thought like alcohols main like

Chris  17:26  
it's the alcohol that makes you feel thirsty. Yeah, but you will be hydrated once the alcohol wears off so you're

Sab  17:31  
you're right it's not just alcoholic beer is a brew. Yeah, like you said before it's an art so like it has ingredients and shit it's all mixed. It's like an elixir, but I just never thought that it can actually hydrate you. Like Yeah, it's refreshing sometimes but I just thought that was like an illusion. With the brain

Chris  17:48  
an illusion. Yeah, I

Sab  17:49  
don't know it's like No, it can't I do you water that's just doesn't taste like water Yellow Yellow piss alcohol water. Leave your kinks to the after the recording.

Chris  18:01  
So on the other side of the spectrum, you know, there's good flavors like the ones we were just talking about. But then there's also bad ones and these are called off flavors. So I some people like them. And apparently in the beer community there's always shifts and turns you know, so like, you know, like IPAs are our popular today. Yeah, there was once a time where IPAs were like the bane of like a beer drinkers exist.

Sab  18:25  
I believe that you know why? You know why, Chuck? I know you like your IPAs?

Chris  18:30  
I don't actually I'm I'm shifting. I don't really worship them. Yeah. All right. I thought they were cool.

Sab  18:34  
But they're interesting. I think they're interesting. But all the I didn't drink IPAs, like before I met you and then like, every time you gave me one, you're like, try this one and try this one. When we were first started hanging out. I'm like, shit taste Oh, yeah,

Chris  18:48  
this started with

Sab  18:49  
me. I was just like, everybody's doing the same thing. And I'm just like, I don't like it. You know what it is. Somebody told me that IPAs are like, like guys who drink IPAs, or like white girls with pumpkin spice lattes?

Chris  19:01  
Pretty much. Yeah. And I don't deny that. But there are some good ones out there. And I stand by that. The only problem is that now everyone's using the same kind of hops. And everyone's hot bombing. Instead of adding hops for flavor, they're adding hops to increase the Ibu because that's what hops do. You can hops can be used for several things, they can be used to either just add flavor, either to just increase the bittering aspect or for both. Lately, they've been bitter hot bombs. And I don't I'm not really into it that much. I'm excited. I'm learning so much. So I was talking about a buttery biscuit. I like that butter flavor because I fucking I'm a fat ass and I love butter. But butter and butterscotch tasting when you taste having beer, that's an off flavor. A lot of times when you taste that, that means something went wrong with the beer specifically, and I'm just gonna read this from the book because I'm not very articulate, but I already had an understanding of this. So those flavors come from the compound diacetyl it's substance that has the pronounced buttery flavor it causes theater popcorn flavor like when you're drinking beer, or butterscotch, as I previously mentioned,

Sab  20:08  
is that like similar to you ever have a tarot bubble tea? It kind of tastes like bubble popcorn. mumbled popcorn buttered popcorn. Yeah, actually,

Chris  20:16  
you can do something like that. Okay, so here's the thing, though at that level, it's good. There are some beers where something goes wrong, and that flavor is so pungent. All you're tasting is popcorn when it's supposed to be like a, a buttery like no, when it's supposed to be like a fruity beer supposed to be like, yes, like, inside, you're tasting the buttery popcorn. That's how you know it's an off flavor when it doesn't fit the description that the brewer gave out. You know what I mean? Well, that's a fail, fruity no butter. diacid was a natural byproduct of fermentation, but he still reabsorb it if left long enough. So breweries rushing their beer out too soon, may leave the acid on the beer. And it can also form from bacteria and dirty tap lines. So it can be a sign of infection. It could be sign of a shitty brew process. But there's other ones too, you know, sometimes some beers are too stringent. There are green apple flavoring. If you taste green apple and a beer. I was trying to see if that if I found that in this I don't think so after thinking about it. I don't think there's green green apple. Definitely not no green apples from acid aldehyde, which is another chemical that is from byproduct of fermentation. It basically is a sign that your beer got isn't as fresh as it should be. You

Sab  21:29  
know what I mean? Yeah. And that's where a lot of the flavors come from. Oh, so like stale?

Chris  21:34  
Yeah, kinda because no, not still infected, in Oh, that's even worse. So here's two cool things about beer. So there are no bad bacteria that can grow within beer. There are just bacteria that can grow that causes bad flavorings.

Sab  21:50  
So those are what that count is harmful. Know how this like I'm

Chris  21:54  
talking about bodily harm. There's not so bad beer can't cause bodily harm. It could just make you very sad.

Sab  21:59  
It's just like, no, this doesn't feel right. Yeah.

Chris  22:03  
And the other thing that is interesting, so I was number one to know bad bacteria can grow. Number two is that the most interesting thing I think about beer is that the initial substances, the wart, which is which is basically an alcoholic beer, called work is basically the perfect breeding ground for bacteria. So that's why that's why brewers have to keep their shit super super clean. Because otherwise you will just have a bottle of bacteria

Sab  22:31  
you know it's kind of sick. Yeah, exactly. Think about it. We drink it's all chemistry. We drink bacteria. It's all biochemistry. We're fucking metal.

Chris  22:38  
Well, do you know? Do you know what causes the alcohol and beer?

Sab  22:42  
No, why would I know that? It's yeast. Oh, okay. So basically I know yeast was like in it I know it was like the cause

Chris  22:50  
any alcohol you drink that alcohol comes from yeast, which is basically little fungi for people who don't know. So basically Thank you mushrooms for our beer, and our wine and our whiskies and everything. It's all yeast. So what they do is they put yeast into a fermenter the yeast make the alcohol, the yeast goes on the bottom and then you filter it out and then you get beer.

Sab  23:13  
That's incredible. Like people figure that

Chris  23:16  
people figured it out before they even knew what the fucker used was. They just put things they put things into a jar left it out in the sun because they forgot about it. drank it would they do some some random ass dude said yeah, smells okay. drank it got fucked up because it was probably unfiltered a shed and probably had some like who's like feces water in it? And then they drank it got fucked up and they were like, Yo, I can make a big profit off of this just

Sab  23:45  
makes people feel like shit. That's exactly what

Chris  23:48  
I I didn't I have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure. Oh, actually, there's a really cool book I want to get alongside this one. I'm not gonna say the title yet, because I don't remember it fully. But it's a book that talks about how beer about beers initial use in modern day society, which was medicinal. Beer was used as the transport medicinal herbs and stuff before you know, Western medicine.

Sab  24:15  
That doesn't surprise me. Here's wonderful. It's full of wonders.

Chris  24:19  
It is. We talked a lot. We've been drinking this beer. So speaking of yeast, and bacteria, our next we're actually as you were thinking she just farted for everyone who wanted to know, but our next beer. Shut the fuck up. The bottle has a nice layer of particulate on the bottom. And that's usually comprised of kill it. Yeah, that's comprised of all the dead yeast. Our next beer is the style known as what beer or wheat beer or white ales,

Sab  24:50  
your white ale

Chris  24:52  
ale. So think like blue moon for people who are used to the more typical stuff. It's like blue moon. Is your cup.

Sab  25:00  
It's right here in front of you your cup. You took it from me Don't fucking tell me like I fucking loved it over there.

Chris  25:06  
So whip beer is Belgian in origin. Here are some of the stats from the book like we did last time. ABV range is four to 4.5%. Typically, bitterness is 10 to 20 Ibu so less bitter than a cold serving temperature is 40 to 55 degrees Fahrenheit. So a little bit warmer than a coach. And a vessel is basically a tumbler or a tulip glass, which I actually am using. I'm using a tool class that makes it so I'm using the Hey, call me

Sab  25:37  
once I know I said it makes sense that it's a tool of the shape of it. You fucking sensitive so

Chris  25:43  
I thought, oh, maybe we have a tool up. Anyway, no Europeans

Sab  25:47  
see. So other flower.

Chris  25:50  
pansies or flowers? Yeah. Did you came for

I thought it was just a word you call people. Wow, I learned something today. So let's talk about some of the aspects of a wood beer shower, a shower. So let's see what beer is basically going to be the same colors of like a Pilsner or koelsch. So Whitby is basically like pilsners that have a little bit of milk tossed and they're a little hazy. It looks easy. They're very citrusy, typically. Oh, no tropical aromas in there. Well, you've had blue moon. Yeah. They're they have that acidity from the citrus. And yeah, they can be described as exotic, pretty much. So those are the basic characteristics of a web beer. And let's talk about the specific one we got here. So this one's actually pretty interesting. It's not it's not Belgian in origin at all. What we have here is a product of Japan. This is Qt hitachino nest oil. I said that really nice. I was about to say

Sab  26:51  
I'm like Damn, this anime

Chris  26:55  
is from Naccache Japan. The multiple modes malted wheat, flaked wheat and flaked barley, the hops are I keep I keep doing British O's today so sorry, the Canadian nose that's the hops are pearl and steering Golding other flavors that can other flavors and brewing ingredients or see it floating well here here's why Listen, it's not just yeast. There's coriander nutmeg, orange peel in orange juice used to make this

Sab  27:27  
is that way it looks like you dumped it instruct swamp and just bottled it up. It looks great. It's not saying it looks bad.

Chris  27:33  
I like a little like that for anyone. You guys will see this on the thumbnail. There's a little owl guy on France. Very cute. It's 5.5% ABV. And it's 13 Ibu so not very bitter. The nose 11 rang pie surprising given the various parts of Japanese oranges included in the beer, but it's unmistakable. Hit Did you know ness turns herbal on the palate. Oh, what a touch of whole GT hojicha tea and white pepper and a requisite coriander. Heavier than most examples, but it's grains taste a buckwheat?

Sab  28:05  
You're like blowing my mind right now with the amount of shit that's Yeah, this

Chris  28:08  
is about the taste crazy. I'm so scared actually.

Sab  28:11  
Can I keep that ball cap off it's really cute. It's got the little logo Yeah, I

Chris  28:15  
won't ruin it for you then.

Sab  28:17  
Oh, what your fucking teeth Yeah,

Chris  28:18  
whoa.

Sab  28:20  
Wait, you can't smell it before you got to pour the both of us and we both smell it You asshole.

Chris  28:25  
Hold on. Wait, I'm agitating it you're agitating it mixing up the mix agitating me. I love vegetating it's my favorite pastime. Oh good. I'm so glad your hobby is agitating me. Oh, it's so no. Oh no, you're good. You're good.

It's Oh, you're fine. Wow, shut

Sab  28:47  
the fuck up.

Chris  28:48  
Oh, yeah, look at those particles in there. There's some. There is some stuff left over in this bottle. Has your head looking very thick, thick and white.

Sab  29:00  
Mine too.

Chris  29:01  
It's an orange color.

Sab  29:02  
I'm trying to be careful, but like mine, too.

Chris  29:04  
Looks like apple juice looks like unfiltered apple juice. Oh,

Sab  29:10  
that only shot almost smells like green apple or sour apple or whatever you said before?

Chris  29:15  
You think so?

Sab  29:15  
Yeah. Look at the the bubbles are much faster.

Chris  29:19  
I smell orange and nutmeg.

Sab  29:21  
I do some I definitely smell orange.

Chris  29:24  
Yes, all the spices, the spices, spices, spices the Spice Girls.

Sab  29:28  
I smell the Spice Girls but I'm not very I don't know if I smell specifically nutmeg like you.

Chris  29:34  
Do you know how to refresh your nose? How you just go to your little smell your elbow? Yeah, so you don't smell anything because you're used to on your own set, but the researcher knows.

Sab  29:47  
Oh shit. That actually made a difference. I don't know how you know that but I always thought you had to shove your nose in someone's asshole or something.

Chris  29:58  
Okay, um, I definitely smell orange

do want to taste it yeah oh

Sab  30:05  
I don't taste the orange too much more like the spices

Chris  30:10  
no I taste huh oh wait after days

It tastes like where does little orange is called I have the really childish name Clementine

Sab  30:20  
no tangerine

Chris  30:21  
no the company is a specific time it's a specific company's cuties. It tastes like cuties. Jesus Clementine is not a company it's the name of a fruit.

Sab  30:33  
You're not a company you fucking fruit. There's a very very long hair that I can see but you do not and it's inside your glass threatening to go into your mouth and I'm waiting

Unknown Speaker  30:44  
fucky felt

Sab  30:47  
Oh, I like the color. Like it's yours. Oh

Chris  30:49  
carbonated? Yeah, it's so carbonated. We don't have to finish this.

We don't have to finish that you're

Sab  30:57  
going to

Chris  30:59  
Oh no, we're gonna finish it before we hit the town. I have a bottle sealer somewhere. We could probably seal this up it's

Sab  31:08  
called my penis.

Chris  31:12  
She does have one tell them about my life.

Now this is interesting. Leave it to Japan to make something that I've had a lot of what beers

Sab  31:22  
definitely tastes like tea to me.

Chris  31:25  
Although Gita tea Yeah,

Sab  31:26  
I taste a lot

Chris  31:27  
not here. Let's do it. Let's do a little investigation. Let's see what whoa gija like if

Sab  31:31  
it if it wasn't as carbonated as it is, and someone just handed me a glass of this and it was like kinda almost flat. I would think it's just if they told me it was tea I'm like, yeah, it's tea.

Chris  31:40  
Well gija has a mellow nutty flavor similar to the toasty flavor again matcha blend with which achieves its nuttiness with roasted puffed rice and lightly sweet caramel undertones of oolong I can see two herbal quality in this It tastes more like a taste more like something to help you get through a disease than a beer. But in a good way. I don't mean to taste like medicine. I mean it tastes like some kind of herbal elixir I mean that's the second time we use that word this episode. elixir

you use that oh wait yeah,

you know I wonder I wonder if the history of like potions and stuff like the idea of potions came from ancient

Sab  32:18  
cocktails like manna was actually just whiskey?

Chris  32:21  
no no I'm being serious I wonder I wonder if if the idea of potions because they didn't know what to call it. I wonder if the idea of potions and the effects came from combining alcohol with the effects of different herbs like sleepy time mix them out like some kind of secret temporary mix alcohol, put someone out on a hallucinogen mix that alcohol makes them freak out. That's an eight ball. That would be a good like thesis.

Sab  32:48  
You should write a paper college boy.

Chris  32:51  
I'm out of college.

Sab  32:53  
I'm sorry Did you not graduate?

Chris  32:55  
I did see your college boy.

I'm not college boy. You are. I'm out of college. Boy.

Sab  33:00  
You went to college. I'm

Chris  33:01  
a college boy.

Sab  33:02  
You went to college though.

Chris  33:04  
Oh college, you promise

Sab  33:10  
is that what you're doing? You're educating me in beer here because all I know how to do is swallow. He didn't have to do that ruined it

Unknown Speaker  33:19  
back I don't think Damn that. Really?

Chris  33:28  
I can't sit that I mean I can't. I can't guzzle this. This is something to enjoy. I understand why it's in a big bottle. I

Sab  33:36  
actually feel like I'm drinking a tea which is something you you know you don't jump to but it's just it's okay. Oh my god. It's like naturally sweet.

Chris  33:46  
You know what? When I smell it now, while it's at the bottom of the tulip I'm getting back back whiffs of honey, so it's really adding to the tea. Or it might be leftover from the last beer

Sab  33:59  
It tastes like a carbonated green tea that has no does not does she not matcha tea green tea that has a hint of lemon with orange Oh orange instead of lemon Good point.

Chris  34:12  
It's brutal oranges you

Sab  34:13  
BAM no I'm describing how do you make a fucking tea because you make a glass of tea ago. I bought Orange. Orange tea. No I have to it's just normally you know I just put a lemon in it because that's what I have in the house.

Chris  34:24  
You know I don't taste the wheat though.

Sab  34:26  
No, not at all. Like I said this does not taste like a beer white

Chris  34:29  
pepper. I need this. spiciness. I don't know if white pepper is spicy. white pepper is

Sab  34:35  
like I don't even know what that taste is my I'm sure I've had food that's had it but I'd never distinctly tasted it.

Chris  34:42  
White peppercorns both begin as the same berry on the same pepper plant is black pepper corns.

Sab  34:48  
So segregation, fuck.

Chris  34:53  
It's pretty good. I can't drink it constantly. This is probably going to be my only cup and I'm gonna save the rest of this for later If you want it unless you want it this would

Sab  35:01  
taste so good and like a chilled beer glass.

Chris  35:03  
What if we warmed it up? Some people warm up some people warm up beer to make it taste better? God bless. Yeah.

Sab  35:11  
Fuck you. I don't know. I feel like it would take Do you want to try it hot and I'll try it like cold I'll put some ice cubes in it or something because we don't have time to chill a glass.

Chris  35:23  
No, we'll just move on. So yeah, so that's that that was definitely a no no for me. It's more of a sipping beer. I can't I can't just I can't just dive into this.

Sab  35:32  
It's yummy. It's very I mean, you really like it that much. I really like it. Yeah, that's good. Maybe that's just because I like to.

Chris  35:39  
So I guess I went through all the parts I already wanted to like talk about I'm gonna go more in depth on future episodes, and I plan better when I'm more established.

Sab  35:48  
So how about for last year, we just talked about what you know about this one

Chris  35:51  
specifically. You want to jump to the third bit we can do

Sab  35:56  
jumping to it. I'm just like saying like for the next thing if you're done with, you know, reading for now.

Chris  36:02  
I don't know anything, man. It's all in the book. Okay, well,

Sab  36:05  
whatever you want, then I don't care.

Chris  36:07  
Well, I can code for college students. Students, students, students. I am not a student. You're my student. For what? For beer? for beer.

You said that's what you you said these words before.

Sab  36:23  
I said you can? Yeah, you can educate me. That doesn't mean you're my teacher.

Chris  36:30  
I hope that pen draw came through because what the fuck does

Sab  36:33  
that even mean? I don't know. Dude, I didn't finish college. Don't take my word for anything. Um,

Chris  36:41  
do you have any look at the particles? Like a little white last week? Do you have any? Uh, any questions? Any concerns? Student?

Sab  36:51  
How loud Do you think I can pee to where the microphone

Chris  36:54  
is? Nothing that that has nothing to do with the brewski

Sab  36:58  
Are you sure? Okay. Oh, how loud Do you think

Chris  37:02  
how long How long were my eyes off of the cup

Sab  37:05  
in that cup.

Chris  37:08  
I'm serious.

Sab  37:09  
I'm pretty sure I could fill that cup. Why Why? Weiss

Chris  37:13  
while she talks about a shit in Paris. I don't understand. All this world is just a shitty pissy world. And he questions or concerns. Concerns concerns,

Sab  37:31  
many concerns such

Chris  37:33  
as? I don't know, dude. The beers getting a little different today on Pepsi. Oh, no,

Sab  37:43  
I'm fine. You're just like a giggly? Vich right now I'm giggly smugly.

Chris  37:46  
You're been you've been laughing and snorting this whole dialyze I started twice. Go back and snore for you. That's two times too many for one hour,

Sab  37:55  
but it was once but it was it was twice it was one snort per time I did it. Usually when I snort it's a series. And it's a stop for a while.

Chris  38:04  
Which means some snorting cocaine. No.

Sab  38:13  
I wasn't joking when I said do you think I go to the bathroom right now? The microphone pick?

Chris  38:17  
No, it won't. Whoa.

Sab  38:18  
Are you sure? What if I

Chris  38:19  
keep the door? Oh, it won't.

Sab  38:21  
Yeah, you caress that fucking

Chris  38:23  
god, dude. You're in linear two different experiences.

Sab  38:27  
What does that mean? I never met Lenny.

Chris  38:30  
There's there's you. There's money. two different worlds.

Sab  38:34  
I hate them both. Sounds like money and I should do a team up.

Chris  38:39  
I never want to hear that sentence come out of your mouth ever again. We're going to our next beer folks. Because we talked about everything I want to talk about and like I said, I'm trying to keep this episode short. It didn't work. I'm a little rusty because it's been a month

short thing. Sorry.

October October Yeah, that's like September October 1 doesn't mean by

Sab  39:05  
by the time he edits this it will be October.

Chris  39:07  
Oh shit, it will be actually so this is coming out in October. So speaking of which, it's fall. It's time for Oktoberfest and pumpkin ales and, and it's fall because everyone Sam Adams shit and festivals and deliciousness. So let's just jump right into it. We're going to talk about a type of marzen slash Vienna lager known as Oktoberfest beers. I make hand motions. Leave me alone. For people who can't see. I did a little I did a little. What's it called when you do like this? And ballet.

Sab  39:41  
His hands are very mesmerizing. That's called gay Chuck. You can't say anything like what do you mean? I can't say things like that. Are you saying people who are homosexual can't do ballet wrong. here that's what I'm trying to say. You're like, Oh, you can't say that gay people. You say sameness

Chris  39:55  
with that with that sly snicker

Sab  39:59  
okay. Have you automatically we're talking about

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